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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s Ruby&#8217;s future?</title>
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	<description>Rafe Colburn on software development (and other topics)</description>
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		<title>By: Fred Blasdel</title>
		<link>http://rc3.org/2008/12/13/whats-rubys-future/comment-page-1/#comment-3428</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Blasdel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You&#039;ve touched on something I&#039;ve been thinking about a lot lately — that almost all languages are totally ossified before they are ten years old.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been thinking about it because I realized that Haskell is 21 years old and never stopped growing and changing. Every few years someone discovers something surprising and novel, even Monads weren&#039;t present at the beginning. I can&#039;t really think of any other &#039;living&#039; languages — even Smalltalk has frozen/forked periodically, despite Alan Kay&#039;s intentions.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve touched on something I&#8217;ve been thinking about a lot lately — that almost all languages are totally ossified before they are ten years old.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about it because I realized that Haskell is 21 years old and never stopped growing and changing. Every few years someone discovers something surprising and novel, even Monads weren&#8217;t present at the beginning. I can&#8217;t really think of any other &#8216;living&#8217; languages — even Smalltalk has frozen/forked periodically, despite Alan Kay&#8217;s intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://rc3.org/2008/12/13/whats-rubys-future/comment-page-1/#comment-3424</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think Ruby as a language is still alive and well, the problems most people are complaining about are the implementations, specifically C Ruby (MRI).  You rarely see people complaining about the Ruby language itself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know many people who don&#039;t even consider MRI a front-runner anymore, preferring to do their development with JRuby.  I think that attitude will become even more common over the next year or two as people become  aware of the limitations in MRI.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While I think the recent rash of articles like KirinDave&#039;s come off as a bit whiny, it&#039;s still a good idea to examine the state of the Ruby implementations regularly and ensure we don&#039;t become complacent.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Ruby as a language is still alive and well, the problems most people are complaining about are the implementations, specifically C Ruby (MRI).  You rarely see people complaining about the Ruby language itself.</p>

<p>I know many people who don&#8217;t even consider MRI a front-runner anymore, preferring to do their development with JRuby.  I think that attitude will become even more common over the next year or two as people become  aware of the limitations in MRI.</p>

<p>While I think the recent rash of articles like KirinDave&#8217;s come off as a bit whiny, it&#8217;s still a good idea to examine the state of the Ruby implementations regularly and ensure we don&#8217;t become complacent.</p>
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