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	<title>Comments on: ETL and MVC</title>
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		<title>By: Jacob Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Davies</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The adherence to MVC is cargo cult programming. It never made any sense to me, maybe it makes slightly more sense in GUI apps than web apps, but I am not even sure of that. Most of what has MVC slapped on it doesn&#039;t even resemble that original design and the division of responsibilities doesn&#039;t map well to what kinds of things happen in web applications. In general I think when you have the amount of difficulty in explaining what you&#039;re trying to do that MVC advocates always seem to have, you&#039;re doing something wrong.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think in terms of filters, transforms, and templates (which are all kind of the same thing). Mix some data and a template. Filter something. Combine every element of X with the corresponding element of Y. That kind of thing. If you can&#039;t explain it to someone who knows nothing about computers with simple block diagrams, you don&#039;t really understand it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The adherence to MVC is cargo cult programming. It never made any sense to me, maybe it makes slightly more sense in GUI apps than web apps, but I am not even sure of that. Most of what has MVC slapped on it doesn&#8217;t even resemble that original design and the division of responsibilities doesn&#8217;t map well to what kinds of things happen in web applications. In general I think when you have the amount of difficulty in explaining what you&#8217;re trying to do that MVC advocates always seem to have, you&#8217;re doing something wrong.</p>

<p>I think in terms of filters, transforms, and templates (which are all kind of the same thing). Mix some data and a template. Filter something. Combine every element of X with the corresponding element of Y. That kind of thing. If you can&#8217;t explain it to someone who knows nothing about computers with simple block diagrams, you don&#8217;t really understand it.</p>
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