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		<title>By: Death of history</title>
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		<dc:creator>Death of history</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pretty awful to turn +1Ghz, potentially multi-core machines with gigs of memory into nothing more than dumb terminals.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is a sign of the consumer culture we live in where businesses feel so scared that they can&#039;t let anyone have the chance to do anything they haven&#039;t predicted.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is the opposite of innovation.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty awful to turn +1Ghz, potentially multi-core machines with gigs of memory into nothing more than dumb terminals.</p>

<p>It is a sign of the consumer culture we live in where businesses feel so scared that they can&#8217;t let anyone have the chance to do anything they haven&#8217;t predicted.</p>

<p>This is the opposite of innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: not_scottbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>not_scottbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;Nobody cares that you can’t install your own apps into your TV set.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But a number of people care about DVD regional encoding - including purchasing players which have &#039;lacked&#039; that feature in the past.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Nobody cares that you can’t install your own apps into your TV set.&#8217;</p>

<p>But a number of people care about DVD regional encoding &#8211; including purchasing players which have &#8216;lacked&#8217; that feature in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 05:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s another, related issue with this closed system: file sharing.  Sharing not just from iPad to desktop, but iPad to iPad and app to app on the iPad.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The iPad isn&#039;t a complete general purpose machine.  You need another computer to synch it to. With only up to 64GB of space, there&#039;s no way for it to hold all the media and content on the iPad itself.  Will iTunes be used to sync everything? Hope not&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Next is sharing files from iPad to iPad.  Now on the iPhone, you don&#039;t create content, you consume it.  It&#039;s form factor doesn&#039;t lend itself for anything more than an email or Twitter update. Photos get uploaded or synced.  With the iPad, its form factor does lend itself to creating content other than just an email - and with no camera, well... With companies like the Omni Group saying they&#039;ll port their apps to the iPad. Right there you have file creation.  If you and your colleague both have iPads, you&#039;re working on a presentation in iWork... How do you get the file back and forth to each other? Right now it seems that the answer is email. I&#039;ve read that Apple will include access to a shared network drive or up to MobileMe.  Is that the best answer?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then there&#039;s sharing of files from app to app.  From what I&#039;ve read, apps store the files they create within themselves.  Delete the app, the files go with it.  But what about the ability to open a file created from one app in another app?  I&#039;ve no doubt there will be text editing apps that will become available for the iPad.  Will we have to transfer a file up to cloud storage just to be able to access it from different apps?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think this aspect of the iPad OS hasn&#039;t been fully addressed and is compounded by the nature of the closed system.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another thing. Will Apple allow apps that compete with their own?  Will they allow another mail app for the iPad? They&#039;ve already denied Google their app for duplication of functionality.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another, related issue with this closed system: file sharing.  Sharing not just from iPad to desktop, but iPad to iPad and app to app on the iPad.</p>

<p>The iPad isn&#8217;t a complete general purpose machine.  You need another computer to synch it to. With only up to 64GB of space, there&#8217;s no way for it to hold all the media and content on the iPad itself.  Will iTunes be used to sync everything? Hope not</p>

<p>Next is sharing files from iPad to iPad.  Now on the iPhone, you don&#8217;t create content, you consume it.  It&#8217;s form factor doesn&#8217;t lend itself for anything more than an email or Twitter update. Photos get uploaded or synced.  With the iPad, its form factor does lend itself to creating content other than just an email &#8211; and with no camera, well&#8230; With companies like the Omni Group saying they&#8217;ll port their apps to the iPad. Right there you have file creation.  If you and your colleague both have iPads, you&#8217;re working on a presentation in iWork&#8230; How do you get the file back and forth to each other? Right now it seems that the answer is email. I&#8217;ve read that Apple will include access to a shared network drive or up to MobileMe.  Is that the best answer?</p>

<p>Then there&#8217;s sharing of files from app to app.  From what I&#8217;ve read, apps store the files they create within themselves.  Delete the app, the files go with it.  But what about the ability to open a file created from one app in another app?  I&#8217;ve no doubt there will be text editing apps that will become available for the iPad.  Will we have to transfer a file up to cloud storage just to be able to access it from different apps?</p>

<p>I think this aspect of the iPad OS hasn&#8217;t been fully addressed and is compounded by the nature of the closed system.</p>

<p>Another thing. Will Apple allow apps that compete with their own?  Will they allow another mail app for the iPad? They&#8217;ve already denied Google their app for duplication of functionality.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lock down on consumer devices? The iPhone and ipad won&#039;t be the only devices I use. If my desktop ever gets locked down like iPhone os, I will be shifting platforms. The thing that makes that possible is open data formats so I can use my data on multiple platforms. I use OpenOffice as then I have the same app suite on my Linux laptop, mac desktop and my wifes windows pc. 
Where ipone and I pad excell will be the ease of use and just works nature. I&#039;m currently in bed tapping away on my iPhone to post a comment on a website. To do this with my laptop I have to make sure it&#039;s charged, I only get 3 hrs out of it&#039;s battery. It would be noiser as the fan would be keeping my wife awake, I would have to be sitting up and tapping away ona noisy mechanical keyboard etc. The phone means I can check my mail, read the days news all before even getting up to face the day. Thaws mobile devices will change the world, but I don&#039;t see them ever replacing full desktops or laptops for everything for a while.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lock down on consumer devices? The iPhone and ipad won&#8217;t be the only devices I use. If my desktop ever gets locked down like iPhone os, I will be shifting platforms. The thing that makes that possible is open data formats so I can use my data on multiple platforms. I use OpenOffice as then I have the same app suite on my Linux laptop, mac desktop and my wifes windows pc. 
Where ipone and I pad excell will be the ease of use and just works nature. I&#8217;m currently in bed tapping away on my iPhone to post a comment on a website. To do this with my laptop I have to make sure it&#8217;s charged, I only get 3 hrs out of it&#8217;s battery. It would be noiser as the fan would be keeping my wife awake, I would have to be sitting up and tapping away ona noisy mechanical keyboard etc. The phone means I can check my mail, read the days news all before even getting up to face the day. Thaws mobile devices will change the world, but I don&#8217;t see them ever replacing full desktops or laptops for everything for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Carsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;doesn&#039;t all this just mean that the computer is now a mass product? i mean the car is a closed platform, the TV is a closed platform ... every consumer good is more or less a closed platform. the reason being increased safety and security, and guaranteed performance levels for the masses. 
yes a guy like stallman likes the openness of his device, but he has to be knowledgeable to run it and to keep it running. most people don&#039;t want that ... i would say that limited openness is the reason computers are now in everyones home (and pocket) and that the network effect far out benefits a loss in platform openness.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doesn&#8217;t all this just mean that the computer is now a mass product? i mean the car is a closed platform, the TV is a closed platform &#8230; every consumer good is more or less a closed platform. the reason being increased safety and security, and guaranteed performance levels for the masses. 
yes a guy like stallman likes the openness of his device, but he has to be knowledgeable to run it and to keep it running. most people don&#8217;t want that &#8230; i would say that limited openness is the reason computers are now in everyones home (and pocket) and that the network effect far out benefits a loss in platform openness.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The washing machine analogy is not quite right.  Its more like if you had a clothes washing machine that could be easily modified to watch dishes as well, but every time you tried to stick a plate in there Steve Jobs would pop out and slap the plate out of hand.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The washing machine analogy is not quite right.  Its more like if you had a clothes washing machine that could be easily modified to watch dishes as well, but every time you tried to stick a plate in there Steve Jobs would pop out and slap the plate out of hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t really see how the XBOX is fragmenting the Internet.  There is no concept of the web on the XBOX (yet).  You get specific internet apps (Last.fm, Facebook, Netflix, and Twitter), but only those apps.  You can access all of those from (almost) anywhere else.  None of them are exclusive to XBOX.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really see how the XBOX is fragmenting the Internet.  There is no concept of the web on the XBOX (yet).  You get specific internet apps (Last.fm, Facebook, Netflix, and Twitter), but only those apps.  You can access all of those from (almost) anywhere else.  None of them are exclusive to XBOX.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Honestly, I despise this thing with a passion I was not aware I could have towards an inanimate object. I am incredibly surprised by that, but its also informed by my own use of computers, and a fear (and thats all it is at this stage - a fear) that my way of using computers is going to be taken away from me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have thought about the situation that Wendy brought up - in a future where this type of device is all that is used, where will the next generation of programmers etc come from? If you take that to its logical extreme, our society could be in deep trouble - we rely on computers, whether we realise it or not, in just about every single facet of our lives and if no one is able to program these computers, or fix them when they are broken, what then?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I despise this thing with a passion I was not aware I could have towards an inanimate object. I am incredibly surprised by that, but its also informed by my own use of computers, and a fear (and thats all it is at this stage &#8211; a fear) that my way of using computers is going to be taken away from me.</p>

<p>I have thought about the situation that Wendy brought up &#8211; in a future where this type of device is all that is used, where will the next generation of programmers etc come from? If you take that to its logical extreme, our society could be in deep trouble &#8211; we rely on computers, whether we realise it or not, in just about every single facet of our lives and if no one is able to program these computers, or fix them when they are broken, what then?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Toal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Toal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is also the possibility that closed systems like the iPad are the start to fragmenting the internet into a series of private networks with exclusive content and exclusive device access. Like XBox Live.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also the possibility that closed systems like the iPad are the start to fragmenting the internet into a series of private networks with exclusive content and exclusive device access. Like XBox Live.</p>
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		<title>By: solak vaslovic</title>
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		<dc:creator>solak vaslovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apple&#039;s tactics would be decried if Microsoft did them because MS is in a monopoly position in the product space of PC OSes and PC Office Applications. Apple is still under ten percent market share. Sure, Apple has a monopoly on Mac OS and iPhones, but not in the OS or cell phone marketplaces. If Apple makes a mis-step, a competitor should arise to do a better job for the customers and developers. If that does not happen, then who is to blame? Not Apple. It will be that competitor who did not act, or the customers and developers who did not care to choose an alternative.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So I see the point you&#039;re making, but I don&#039;t see it as a problem. I see it as a condition to monitor. If certain things happen, you may respond with an outcry or with a bold business move. If you are sure that Apple will ignore the outcry, then I would recommend being ready for the bold business.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;People used to wash their clothes by hand in the river. Now (around here, anyway) there are automatic washing and drying machines. Do I bemoan my constraint to only a the few wash and dry settings on those devices? No, because I pour in detergent and push the ON button and my clothes get clean. That&#039;s where Apple is headed with iPad™. I believe that most people will prefer that, if Apple does it right. Yet, there will always be nerds who want to &quot;go down to the river&quot; to write their own software and/or be developers for the devices that &quot;everyone&quot; uses. I also think that, properly monitored and shepherded, companies like Apple and Google and Microsoft will keep a variety of options available to us.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple&#8217;s tactics would be decried if Microsoft did them because MS is in a monopoly position in the product space of PC OSes and PC Office Applications. Apple is still under ten percent market share. Sure, Apple has a monopoly on Mac OS and iPhones, but not in the OS or cell phone marketplaces. If Apple makes a mis-step, a competitor should arise to do a better job for the customers and developers. If that does not happen, then who is to blame? Not Apple. It will be that competitor who did not act, or the customers and developers who did not care to choose an alternative.</p>

<p>So I see the point you&#8217;re making, but I don&#8217;t see it as a problem. I see it as a condition to monitor. If certain things happen, you may respond with an outcry or with a bold business move. If you are sure that Apple will ignore the outcry, then I would recommend being ready for the bold business.</p>

<p>People used to wash their clothes by hand in the river. Now (around here, anyway) there are automatic washing and drying machines. Do I bemoan my constraint to only a the few wash and dry settings on those devices? No, because I pour in detergent and push the ON button and my clothes get clean. That&#8217;s where Apple is headed with iPad™. I believe that most people will prefer that, if Apple does it right. Yet, there will always be nerds who want to &#8220;go down to the river&#8221; to write their own software and/or be developers for the devices that &#8220;everyone&#8221; uses. I also think that, properly monitored and shepherded, companies like Apple and Google and Microsoft will keep a variety of options available to us.</p>
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